Northeast College of Health Sciences, Seneca Falls NY

Hmm. Where to begin?
Perhaps, in agreement with prior reviews regarding, "toxic behavior and complacency, " being rewarded with leadership. Also, "good work being rewarded with more work, " with progress stifled. The college boasts a rigorous, "science based, " program, yet chooses to ignore the 35 years of, "science backed, " research regarding food colorings and its, "very unlikely, " association with ADHD. Also, it seems as if most, "cognitive-based, " disorders are subject to ill-mannered jokes unbefitting for the year 2022 when sociology and psychology fields had actively worked to dispel these kinds of jokes delivered in bad taste. I fear that after all of the, "begging, " for more Medicare billing benefits, most of these students will begin to push the agenda that vaccines cause autism. In fact, the students are taught IN lecture, to very carefully steer away from the mentioning of being, "anti-vaccine, " so as not to hurt potential, "business, " with MDs. Because at NYCC, that's all medicine is to a DC, a, "business. "

The student body is lacking in diversity, and the students ARE very passive/hyper aggressive, "clichey, " immature, assumptive and arrogant. No one, with the current state of stagnation that the Chiro field is in, comes to a chiropractic college on purpose. The education cost ratio to expected salary is too low and so is the availability of jobs. The field is either too new, too old, or completely stuck in the 1970s. Much of the career seems to be spent on, "proving, " that you're worthy of being called, "doctor, " and begging for acceptance from MDs and DOs.

The professors are hit or miss, and they are generally inconsistent in attitude and demeanor. I find that ethics training would be beneficial, especially in their reception to people of different backgrounds and cultures. This should not be necessary in 2022, but the NYCC faculty and student population BEG to differ.

Also, it's never nice to call someone the R word especially its use in a professional setting. No wonder the student body never acted professionally, as, "we, " have to honestly take a look at their role models and mentors. A cancerous society of, "thinking, " peoples. Outdated principles that they, "hold onto, " and think that it is somehow, "funny, " or, "acceptable, " in a professional, processive society. A, "cancer, " by the way, that's already eradicated in MOST professional settings, but this type of lack of regard just seems as outdated as polio.

Honestly, take the MCAT and get into an MD program. Don't waste your time here and don't use this place as a stepping stone to get into an MD program. It's too expensive, and socially, it's toxic and exhausting. The absolutely worst people that I have ever met. Racism and sexism.and victim blaming! In the year 2022! Don't cut corners, which is ironically, what the perspective of chiropractic business practices' seem to be!

EDIT: Also, they teach the idea of, "accountability, " but their actions and words seem to contradict this. Contradiction seems to be a running theme here. The chiropractic community also does not agree on its own identity as a career, and the field is very inconsistent. How are you going to teach if you don't even know your own field purpose? Done trying to help them out. Waste of time.

Great School! With such a short list of Chiropractic schools in the country having one nestled right in upstate NY is truly a great asset to the local communities of young adults looking for a career path!

I didn't attend NYCC, I work with them as a vendor. I want to say how impressed I was with their leadership team in our kickoff meeting back in November. It was so evident how dedicated they are to the long term sustainability of the school and the success of their students. Afterwards, two students took us on a tour of the campus. They were super engaged and I could tell they had a lot of passion for the profession and the college. It's awesome to see a leading institution like this right in my own backyard.

I was getting ready to come on here and crush NYCC. Then I read these ridiculous reviews from people who clearly failed professionally based on their own incompetence with NYCC not being at fault.

Yes, it costs a lot of money - welcome to the world.

No, chiropractic is not the profession for you if you want to maximize your income.

No, you should not listen to the career prospects of Chiropractic from this or any college.

Yes, it will take some time to make any money for most people. I'm truly not spectacular and had a practice in Western NY grossing around $250,000 within about 4 years of graduation. Yes, you must be extremely careful picking who you work for upon graduation.

For me NYCC functioned as a means to an end. I got my degree and permission from the government to practice the profession I love. In that function NYCC was solid. I had no issue passing my boards. The campus was nice. The cost was in line with all the other chiropractic schools.

My critiques are a bit wide ranging, but here is a non-exhaustive list -

1 - you learn nothing about chiropractic from a philosophical POV and nothing practical from a business perspective.
Philosophy is the only thing that differentiates us from PTs. If we lose that then we disappear. NYCC teaches you none of that and in fact they actively discourage it.

2 - With few exceptions, the DCs teaching you will clearly be professional failures. I even had a couple of classmates offered adjunct professor positions prior to ever even practicing.

3 - The student clinic is a joke. My experience there was that the worst of the worst "those that can't do teach" were in charge. For example - I had a disc injury patient and the mandated treatment plan was 2x/month while he was flared up (should be 3x/week). There was a professor there who was both scared to adjust and be adjusted (I'm not kidding). She was the one mandating my treatment of the above patient. In my year in the Buffalo clinic I think I shot the only x-ray taken in that time.

"Refer out" should be their mantra as they teach you to be scared of basically any patient who will enter your office. Everything is a red flag that is inappropriate for our profession.

4 - Many of the most useful learning experiences are barred from campus. Any chance to learn Chiropractic Philosophy or practice management from a successful practicing chiropractor isn't welcome. Student groups trying to organize such events had one professor willing to help and she has since retired.

5 - Focus is shifting farther and farther from chiropractic. There is an ever expanding list of degrees available and in the near future chiropractic won't even be in the name.

If you want to be a chiropractor I suggest looking into Sherman Chiropractic College in Spartanburg SC or Life University in Marietta GA. Do not even consider D'Youville in Buffalo NY where all of the issues NYCC has will be amplified even more.

All the other "negative" (read: realistic) reviews summed it up. I graduated from here and despite being a nice place to be and seeming like you would have a future in a great profession, in your 20's you know nothing and these schools take full advantage of it. If we weren't living under a criminal tyrrany of feudalism that is called government, which in itself is the root organization allowing for such other criminal syndicates to prosper, most of these institutions would have not only been exposed for the massive fraud they are perpetrating and have had their top level maffia bosses pay reparations for all of the young people they defrauded and ruined for life, but likely not exist in the first place to be able to try. I would suggest starting to research how the world really operates instead of wasting time buying into all of these perpetrated scams wrapped up in empty promises, a good launch point is checking out the work of Mark Passio (just google the name), i may have avoided this lifelong mistake if i would have had awareness of such knowledge, for free, back then. Don't waste your time with chiropractic (or any other profession that demands you be indepted = enslaved for the rest of your life just to be a productive member of society).

Avoid Chiropractic.

What profession saddles you with crippling lifelong debt, provides a negligible return on investment, garners no respect from the medical community, and struggles to agree on its own identity? Chiropractic.

I write this in hopes of deterring others from getting sucked into the ethical and financial black hole of chiropractic. Fun fact: your chiropractic degree means nothing to those outside the profession. For reference, it took two years and ultimately required an internal connection to acquire a job in a scientific realm. Ironically, I make more money in this entry-level research position than I did in my last year as an associate seeing ~15 patients/day.

DEBT: Without assistance, you are guaranteed to graduate with AT LEAST $160k of debt. Many students will excitedly begin their careers with $200k+ of debt, a <4 years doctorate degree, and dreams of a financially successful life. This is certainly more a dream than reality. Even the American Chiropractic Association reported that the current average salary of an associate, independent of age or experience, is roughly $65,000. Your other career option of owning your own practice will require at least 5+ years to even become profitable, and many more (if you survive) to even get comfortably established. During this time, you’ll barely chip away at even the accrued interest of those aforementioned loans. Additionally, you’ll be devoting all your time outside the office to shameless marketing: school screenings, health fairs, holiday “specials”, presentations, and office drop-ins. As an associate, I felt constantly pressured to recommend bloated treatment plans, cut back my time with patients, or emphasize prepay tactics. “Wellness care” is pushed on everyone, but in reality most patients would get more return on investment from a monthly massage or personal training appointment. Half (if not more) of the profession practices in ethically grey areas - if not borderline malpractice. "Chiro mills" or personal injury practices, for example. Chiropractic is all about sales.

"SCIENCE": Chiropractic was based on the hypothesis that spinal misalignments are the root of all disease (“Look well to the spine for the causes of disease”). Even not-so-modern science debunks this philosophy, and to NYCC’s credit, they have mostly abandoned the "subluxations cause all disease" concept. However, many schools still teach some variation of this idea, which has resulted in a heavily polarized profession and lots of deserved mistrust from the rest of the medical community. I once had a patient describe how her last chiropractor told her he “cured” cancer with a series of adjustments. Chiropractic lacks consistency: one chiro may instruct you to avoid vaccines while another down the street tries to sell you a treatment plan on a PEMF device.

EDUCATION: Admission requirements are a joke for a profession always hoping to be taken seriously by the rest of the medical community. No standardized testing or GPA requirements. You literally don't even need a completed undergraduate degree. As for academic rigor, I specifically recall a common phrase being repeated among students when I was in school: “C’s and D’s make DC’s”. A DC degree is the fastest way to a doctorate (3.75 years) ; a MD degree is one of the longest ways to a doctorate (4 years + 3-5 years residency). Chiropractic colleges love to compare the two like they are academically or professionally equivalent.

REPETITIVE: You will dream about diagnosing a variety of pathologies and conditions…but in reality 90% of your patients will be mechanical joint pains due to inactivity and/or poor lifestyle choices.

FUTURE: The accurate aspects of modern chiropractic are being adopted by other real medical professions such as PT’s and Orthos, so I don’t see a strong future for chiropractors. Especially once manipulation classes get integrated into PT and orthopaedic programs.

Please read: Truly a solid education, great professors & experience. HOWEVER speaking on behalf of myself (a graduate) and other peers in my class I would STRONGLY recommend not perusing chiropractic college. You will end up with crippling student loan debt that you will forever live with and never pay off. You will have tremendous difficulty finding a job, you will either not get paid enough to survive or end up suffering while practicing along with a DC that practices bizarrely or unethically (although this is not prompted by the college). Owning a business is extremely difficult with chiros on every corner and declining reimbursement rates nationwide. On top of the already difficult circumstances noted above you will need to navigate finding affordable health insurance for yourself and family which is nearly impossible considering the debt to low income ratio you will have. I thankfully after 5 years post grad and a lot of tears, fear, and praying I found an unrelated chiropractic career that I love. I feel blessed considering the potential circumstances. However I will be working until the day I die likely being unable to ever retire after having attended this school. I've sometimes hoped that I don't make it to my "25 year" IBR debt forgiveness, because then I will be hit with a IRS tax bill so large and it will reawaken this nightmare all over again and anything I've gained I will likely lose because of it (as if I'm not reminded monthly already). Whats even more concerning is what the beginning of my last sentence suggested. This is the reality. There are people who are fortunately enough to have thriving profitable businesses in chiropractic but they are far and few as I've spoken with most of my peers who are in the same boat as me rather than the latter half. I pray collegiate institutions are someday scrutinized and possibly even held accountable for offering any degrees that have a poor return on investment for the general population of graduates. This includes all colleges. With all that said and considered, if you are going to pursue post grad in chiropractic this truly is the only one you should attend and it is the best out there and has a great education. Just consider all the other factors and make the decision logically as I wish I had followed my gut.

Super campus that provides the tranquility and focus students need to be successful in this intense program. Teachers are approachable and provide tremendous support to contribute towards the success of the students. Cater well to students who are Canadian.